Light, Durable, Recycled Content Pavers

Driveway-pavers

There’s a paver out there, the Vast Paver, that’s been showing up on HGTV, the Today Show, and Renovation Nation.  It’s probably because the composite paver is made from roughly 90-95% recycled scrap tire rubber and plastics — every 1,000 square-feet of pavers saves 500 tires and 15,000 plastic containers from landfills!  These durable pavers work in a number of situations, including for low-volume traffic, driveways, walkways, rooftops, decks, and patios.  Colors include redwood, boardwalk, village, waterwheel, polo, and olive (below).

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Vast Pavers are approximately one-third the weight of concrete and can be installed with relative ease on a grid system sold by Vast Pavers.  The colors are fade-resistant, and using them can help contribute to obtaining several LEED credits.  Check out Vast Pavers in action in these videos:

[:|] Landscape paver installation on Youtube.
[:|] Vast featured on NBC Today Show on Youtube.

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Photo credits: Vast Enterprises, LLC.


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  • Marvene Spencer

    Hi,
    How do Vast Pavers perform in the area of stormwater runoff.

  • Facebook User

    PK – What’s the cost of this compared to regular concrete sidewalks?

    • http://www.jetsongreen.com Preston

      The cost varies regionally, but for example, it’s $6.99 psf in Minneapolis. Once the sub-base is in, the installation is said to be quick and easy. Cheap labor states won’t benefit as much, but on an installed cost comparison, you could be looking at the same price or something like 20% cheaper depending on the application.

  • DG

    not a good choice- these would be easy to steal, and put hyrdocarbons in the ground

    • http://www.sincerelysustainable.com theauthor

      You know what else puts hydrocarbons in the ground and water? Almost every paved street in America. What do you think asphalt is made of? Plus, the tires used for VAST would still end up in the ground in one form or the other if they weren’t utilizes as pavers.

      And who steals paver blocks?

      • DG

        Who would take pavers? Who would cut the face out of a gabion wall with bolt cutters, or take the top of a Keystone wall and throw it through a window? Kids looking for trouble. The same ones would swipe light weight blocks (pick one up and feel it) and do who knows what. And just because asphalt puts hydrocarbons in the ground, it OK to perpetuate that? I thought the point was to clean things up, not just perpetuate a bad situation. These paver which are supposed to be green tech, further pollute runoff. Bad idea.

        • http://www.sincerelysustainable.com theauthor

          I don’t know where you live, but I think that activity, as a whole, is rare. From a carbon and energy perspective, I can’t see how concrete pavers are more environmentally friendly at any stage of their lifecycle. You’re dealing with a nasty post-consumer material that’s going to not just ‘go away’ in probably the best way you can. What would you suggest doing with 300 million tires a year that would be any better?

          Just my opinion.

      • DG

        I live in America, near a large metro area where we see grafitti, theft and destruction of public property as common. I work in the construction industry and get calls from municipalities asking me what to do when kids cut the face out of a gabion basket wall, and it is crapping rocks all over the roadway. Just because you are not aware of vandalism does not mean it is not real. There are probably good uses for the tires, but further polluting the stormwater runoff and also the ground water is not one. No malice, just my opinion.

        • http://www.sincerelysustainable.com theauthor

          I too have worked, and still do in many aspects, in construction and know where your coming from as I’m located in the heart of a huge metropolitan area not known for it’s public safety. Let’s just say a shot up range target tapped to our last construction entrance was needed to get the point across.

          I agree with, and share, your desire not to pollute, but my point is there is really no way to prevent pollution once a tire is made. Be it burning, burying, or abrasion, that petroleum is going back into the environment in one form or another. As much as I hate considering ‘less bad’ scenarios good, I think that’s what has to be settled upon; with regards to tire waste at least.

        • DG

          Its a good dialogue that needs to be had. I am all for Green Tech, but is has to make sense. I don’t want to add to one of the biggest problems we have (stormwater management) to help out with landfill issues. I guess its all about what is hurting your state the most, which is why the Feds will never be able to make effective, across the board mandates that work in every area. In the Pacific NW our issues are stormwater related.

          We could load the tires into a rocket and shoot them at the sun, but that’s a bit cost prohibitive.

    • David

      Once the sand sweep is done the pavers will lock in tightly. It’s not as simple as just picking them up – the kids would actually have to work to steal them – not as likely.

      • DG

        Ok. I’d like to be wrong, but I’m not. Look up pavers and vandalism on the web if you care to learn more. NYC, Portland Oregon and New Zeland will show up on the first page of hits. PS the comments from some on here may not be exactly objective.

        In all things, follow the money.

        • http://www.jetsongreen.com Preston

          Ironically, this article about stealing bricks just popped upon Planetizen.

  • http://mportlandrealestate.com/ Portland Real Estate

    Awesome idea. I love how they just tesselate and fit together on the mat. Extra points if they were able to use locally sourced recyclable materials and tires from the same city.

    • David

      VAST is currently working with Bridgestone on a possible project to take their scrap tires and turn them into pavers for walkways, patios, and parking areas at their Advanced Technical Center.

  • Liz

    Huh, I wonder if that can be used in place of asphalt or concrete as a driveway.

    • http://www.jetsongreen.com Preston

      Definitely, these can be used in low-traffic situations, including driveways, walkways, rooftops, decks, and patios, etc.

  • http://vastpavers.com/ Andy

    Full disclosure: I work at VAST!

    I wanted to make a couple quick comments on VAST composite pavers as it relates to leaching:

    * The majority scientific opinion is that crumb tire rubber is inert, not hazardous and — unfortunately — unable to breakdown naturally.

    * Our research indicates that the worst aspects of crumb tire rubber (e.g. used as rubber mulch) is the leaching of zinc. In the western part of the country, where the soils are lacking zinc, this is actually a good thing. In other areas where zinc levels are higher, the additional zinc content can be bad for vegetation.

    * Even considering ANY possible leaching from crumb tire rubber, VAST’s composite material encapsulates the crumb tire rubber almost entirely inside plastic (over 99%). This means very little of the rubber’s surface is actually in contact with the soils.

    * The manufacturer of portland cement burns tires to generate heat — over 130 million tires a year. The production of concrete products is responsible for 5%-10% of the world’s CO2 emissions. Not to mention the damage from quarrying and a limited ability to recycle (only 15% of concrete is recyclable).

    …also, after joint sanding, VAST pavers are just as difficult to remove as any other paver or brick. If someone WERE to throw a paver at my window, I’d rather they throw our pavers — they are 1/3 the weight.

    • DG

      I never said I was in favor of concrete pavers- they add alkalinity to the soil.

      • H-Bomb

        DG,

        Can you offer any alternatives that meet your approval?

        • DG

          And which person are you that has already been here, but now has a new name? I didn’t didn’t just fall off the light rail train. These discussions are often not about what is effective or what is right or how to fix stuff that’s garbage, but about people protecting their assests. That’s why I usually don’t reply. That’s why Preston’s info is good, its usually untainted.

        • http://www.jetsongreen.com Preston

          And if our information is not untainted, we’ve overlooked or mistaken something and will fix it right up. Here, I think this discussion is healthy, and all the facts deserve attention.

        • DG

          Which is why I like, and referrence, this website

        • H-Bomb

          Wow. I asked a sincere question. You appear to know your stuff; offer me something constructive.

          After reading about the war zone you live in, I can understand your adversarial attitude.

          FYI – My name is Herbert Massey. I read this site from time to time, though I don’t think I’ve ever posted. I am not affiliated with anyone commenting on or writing for this site.

        • DG

          You’d laugh if I told you the municipality I live near. Most of the vandalism goes under the radar of small and large municipalities. Most people drive around in a daze anyway- thinking that they pay enough taxes that the police should stop everything and handle everything. Ever notice how much other don’t pay attention?

          Working as a private investigator has helped shaped an attitude of cynacism. Sorry if I’m too abrasive. That website that the guy above referrenced- permapavenw -looked promising

        • http://www.permapavenw.com/ Green Deen

          So then when can we see an objective review of Permapave Northwest? :)

      • http://www.permapavenw.com/ Green Deen

        That last comment was to Preston, but it didn’t fall in the right spot

  • http://vastpavers.com/ Andy

    DG et al,

    What’s your thoughts on clogging and/or freeze thaw with products like Permapave? You can’t argue with the infiltration rates, but those are typically the two complaints I hear.

    • DG

      I’m sure they have data, did anyone ask them (i did BTW), or just repeat the rhetoric that possibly was started by someone looking out for their wallet.

      Objective info is so hard to find. But that’s one of the few downsides of true capitalism. The problem with the US, most people are too lazy to make it work right. We are sound byte happy, and go for shiny hyperbole when its in front of us, which is the only way to account for the popularity of American Idol and Infomercials. If people were self educated and dug into stuff, snake oil salesmen could not prosper.

    • DG

      BTW there’s a difference between the east coast and west coast operations for that stuff. That’s all I’m going to say.

  • Anonymous

    That’s amazing that they are that high in recycled content. And, I’m glad that you guys did the research to show how much is being saved from going into landfills. There are so many opportunities in making a product almost entirely out of used products, and making them durable and useful. Keep up the good work.
    http://www.cleanedison.com

  • Lesterdmartin

    What are the thoughts on Tonmik flexitile payvers? I really like the look but am concerned about how pours they are and mildew.

  • http://floorsconcrete.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=45 Endurable Sealer

    visitor to your blog I am very impressed.

  • Cindy

    Hi there. Thanks so much for providing what looks to be a fantastic, innovative product. I need to replace the traditional concrete driveway and sidewalk to the front door of my single family home in Leawood, KS. Would the recycled rubber pavers work in this application? And how would I find an experienced installer? Are there any tax credits for this type of project?

    Cindy

  • Kikallez

    Will weeds grow up through these?

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